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    Hi Everyone,

    I was having fun reading some Questions and Answers and decided to make a visual presentation of some of the important lineages in Southern Shaolin Kung Fu. As you can see, all four of Sifu's lineages are presented here. I hope you enjoy it. There are surely some gaps, so I hope to make it more complete in the future. Also, if you see any errors, please point them out.
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    "Then how could chi kung overcome diseases where the cause is unknown or when there is no cure? The question is actually incorrect. The expressions "the cause is unknown" and "there is no cure" are applicable only in the Western medical paradigm. The expressions no longer hold true in the chi kung paradigm. In the chi kung paradigm the cause is known, and there is a cure."

    -Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit

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    Thank you Mark. It is always a pleasure to see our lineage. Even though we are all full aware it is so special to see our direct lineage to the Shaolin Temple.

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      hello,

      i am interested in the Tit Kiu Saam's lineage. we know that he was a teacher of Lam Fuksing, and a student of mongk Gwok Yan. i have never found who was a teacher of Gwok Yan. in your lineage, you have Saam Dak as the teacher of Gwok Yan. where have you found this info?

      all the best and thank you

      bellow is our lineage

      Pavel Macek Sifu

      Practical Hung Kyun 實用洪拳

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      • #4
        Greetings,

        My information came from the December 2007 Q&A Part 1.

        The Venerable Harng Yien and the Venerable Kwok Yen were different persons. The Venerable Harng Yein was the sipak (elder kungfu brother of one's sifu) of the Venerable Kwok Yan. Kwok Yan's sifu was the Venerable Sam Tuck, who was the junior kungfu brother of Harng Yein.
        Hoong Hei Khoon and Luk Ah Choy, who were very important in many Hoong Ka lineages today, were also the junior kungfu brothers of Harng Yein and of Sam Tuck, and therefore were the “sisook” (junior kungfu uncle) of Kwok Yan. So Theit Kiew Sam would call them “sisookgung” (kungfu junior grand uncle). Hoong Hei Khoon also helped Theit Kiew Sam with his kungfu. This is an important point which may help some Hoong Ka practitioners solve their lineage problem.
        Most Hoong Ka (Hung Gar) lineages today regard Hoong Hei Khoon as their First Patriarch, and their kungfu style is named after this great kungfu master. But they have a problem linking their generation line back to Hoong Hei Khoon, because their lineage is as follows: Luk Ah Choy —> Wong Kai Ying —> Wong Fei Hoong —> Lam Sai Weng, from whom many Hoong Ka schools developed.
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        "Then how could chi kung overcome diseases where the cause is unknown or when there is no cure? The question is actually incorrect. The expressions "the cause is unknown" and "there is no cure" are applicable only in the Western medical paradigm. The expressions no longer hold true in the chi kung paradigm. In the chi kung paradigm the cause is known, and there is a cure."

        -Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit

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        • #5
          thank you very much, i have missed this info!
          Pavel Macek Sifu

          Practical Hung Kyun 實用洪拳

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