Kungfu training

[Chun Nga]

Dear Shaolin Members,

When we talking about tiring after Training Kungfu, of course most of the people will feel tired after train, because they are not using the Chi to generate Energy.

Beside Chi, concentration on training is the most important. When we really concentrate doing somethings, we are not feel tired or bored because our mind is targeting on our motivation, our vision and mission.

I have past through this experiences so many times, espeacially SIFU Wong have Kungfu Training Classes In Cinta Sayang Sungai Petani Kedah, Malaysia. I have been ordered from Sifu Wong to Join the Classes, from Morning 8.00 AM until night 11 PM. Total time for training is 8 hours a days and continues for 5 days.

Sometimes I really feel very TIRED because of the training, and why I feel Tired and in other way around others Shaolin Members Still look Fresh and Full of Energy Charge. I start to look around...... it's nothings wrong with the environment, all Shaolin Members are so friendly, I use the right chi for my movement, I do not feel hungry or thirsty and why I still very tired after training.....

From that time I realise that, because of my self lack of concentration and not really focus on training, thats why I easy to get tired. So from my personal opinion,,,, focusing, concentration, mind, chi and environment is very important for US to have good training of Kungfu and of course until end we will get good benefit from the training and we are not get tiring.

I hope all Shaolin Members will get my point (because of my BAD English). Please write back to me about your opinion. Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
Chun Nga.

[Marcus]

Hello Chun Nga,

Thanks for starting this thread. I have often found that the state of my mind makes a great difference to the benefits of any task. For example, due to my experiences in other martial arts schools, when ever I hear the words "time for sparring" I feel an overwhelming wave of negativity flow through me and it is with a heavy heart that I begin to spar. As you mentioned we are very lucky that Shaolin members are so nice. These days I make a concious effort to gently remind myself that sparring in Shaolin is very different to my previous experiences. Concentrating on this allows me to get so much more out of my training.

Until your post, I had not made the connection between "right mind" during training and avoiding tiredness after practice. The next time I attend an intensive kung fu course with Sifu I will remember this As the last time I attended in March I was so physically tired by day 4 that I found it hard to concentrate on the most basic of tasks.

Okay time to go to work, an opportunity to practice "being in the right state of mind" if ever there was one

sincere regards

Marcus



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[Antonius]

Interesting thread Chun Nga.

I've noticed something similar. Generally speaking, the longer the Kungfu session, the harder I find it to maintain full concentration. I do two practice sessions daily, one in the morning and one in the evening. Each session lasts about 60-80 minutes, for a total of about 120-160 minutes a day.

I find that I can concentrate better with these 2 shorter sessions than with one longer session. I can easily do a 160 minute session, but when I do, I often end up wasting time (and energy) because my mind wanders.

[Luo Lang]

Very nice thread!
I have experienced similar things: I had session, when I really felt strong and relaxed and powerful before my training: But in fact I got very fast tired, because I made myself pressure in mind instead of relaxing and focusing. On the other hand there were sessions I felt really tired, stressed before I started with my training: and I realised that I could relax and focuse very easy and after I felt happy, fit and powerful. In my experience expectations are also a big hindrance to focus and relax.

As the last time I attended in March I was so physically tired by day 4 that I found it hard to concentrate on the most basic of tasks.

Marcus, my big brother, i feel with you I think most of us were extremely mmmmh, let's say overloeded I still wonder why Sifu kept on training with such poor students

respectfully

Roland

[drunken boxer]

Marcus,

I know exactly what you mean. When I used to spar in boxing or kickboxing, when the coach would say "you are sparring next" I would get that horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach, the energy would drain out of my body, my heart was pounding etc. In the next few minutes I'd put on the gloves, gumshield etc, still feeling nasty until the point when I'd step through the ropes, then I'd feel nasty in a different way, angry at myself for getting scared, angry at my opponent for his part in making me scared. So then I would attack fiercely trying to exact some sort of revenge for this, and the sparring could get very vicious. Then of course this meant that the next time sparring was also sure to be vicious so I'd get even more nervous before that, and be even more angry next time, leading to even more vicious sparring, a vicious circle.
From Sifus books, it seems that this kind of thing also happens in many kungfu schools.

[Chiahua]

Ah!

Referring to Antonius' thread, maybe that's why sometimes Sifu Wong "emphasizes less is more"? With water-buffalo/endurance contest training right from the start the mind is focused on meeting a certain time criterion, independent of how well you train. Breaking it up helps you maintain the concentration and energy level over time?

[Vince]

Any more tips?

Hi Chun Nga,
Thanks for the advice, I will be putting it into practice immediately. I am just starting my kung fu training and I will be attending my first kung fu course with Sifu in Spain next month. Would you have any more advice for someone who is just starting off ?

Best Regards,
Vince

[cnholmes]

Aims and Objectives

I find it easier to stay focused if I have clear aims and objectives. Then when its time to spar I think "this is one more step towards it". It works even better if I've been given a correction to work on. I still get tired, though.

It also seems a lot less work when I've got a strong direction to go in. Perhaps its just me: I don't like messing about aimlessly because I get bored

Regards,
Chris.