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[Zhang Wuji]

Hey, look! What a coincidence:

Dog, cat meat could come off Chinese menus
Posted: 26 January 2010 1556 hrs


People gather to watch workers slaughter dogs at a shop selling meat from the creatures.




BEIJING: Dog and cat meat - age-old delicacies in China - could be off the menu in the food-loving nation under its first law against animal abuse, state press said Tuesday.

People who eat either animal, both of which are viewed as promoting bodily warmth, would face fines of up to 5,000 yuan (US$730) and up to 15 days in jail if the law is passed, the Chongqing Evening News said.

It said "organisations" involved in the practice would be fined from 10,000 to 500,000 yuan. The report gave no other details.

The law has been at the drafting stage over the past year and the report did not make clear when the legislation was expected to become law.

China's rubber-stamp legislature meets in March but draft legislation can often take years to be approved.

Cruelty to animals and the raising of cat and dog meat for dinner tables remains widespread in China, despite growing consciousness over animal welfare.

Restaurants touting "fragrant meat," a euphemism for dog, can be seen in cities throughout the country, where the fondness for dogs as pets co-exists with a taste for canine meat.

Cat meat is most popular in parts of southern China and there are regular reports of animal lovers attempting to block trucks carrying hundreds or even thousands of cats to meat markets and eventually dinner tables there.

- AFP/yb
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...033090/1/.html

[Kingmonkey]

I'm very sorry, but I can't see the point of this.

To me it seems as if China is giving up more and more of its culture to become somewhat westernized...

I don't see why one should not eat cats or dogs but on the other side eat cows and sheep. To me the question is not whether one eats cats or dogs or cows or sheep or rabbits or whatever animal, but how they are raised, how they are allowed to live their lifes and how they die.

I remember seing a documentary about a swiss peasant who really really loved his cows, each cow had a name and was treated as a special individual, he knew the special character of each cow and he still loved them after they had gone their way in to the sussages. He knew exactly which saussage was made of which cow and he still loved them and appreciated them....

I think that nowadays we are much to silken, we only buy the best or at least the second best parts of the slaughterd animals and the rest is made dog and cat food for our pets. I don't know if this even affects our nutrition, only eating filets and chops influences for example our chewing habbits, which are not unimportant for healthy eating and I think that the composition of different parts of the eaten animal are different. So eating only the bbest parts may create a lack of whatever, I'm no biologist...

(btw. I do not see the point of having a pet at all, I think this is a remaining archetypal behavior from way back when humans started to domesticate animals FOR FOOD)

And I still can't see why if a certain animal is usualy a pet, why it can't also be eaten (not the particular one of course.... but why not...) here in Europe a lot of children have rabbits as pets but still rabbits are eaten widely.....

Again, I think the point is not if we eat either animal but how we treat them!

Sincerely
Pat

PS: There are certain cats who would make a great meal of a human without hesitation

[Luo Lang]

To echo ChiaHua's quote from Sifu:
Not only Shaolin monks, but also high level Taoist priests would avoid meat and sexual intercourses to improve their aspirations! I think even among secular Taoist disciples, it was quite common to hold a diet, as many of them focussed on the Ying Yang consept in their approach.

All in all it's a energy exchange, and while meat eaters may get some more of a specific energy, they may have to clear their bodies of toxic waste.

On the other hand, while refusing a certain energy income, which is basically not that bad, they restict themselves which may result into another blockage!

I think we are pretty lucky on that: we may or may not eat meat. As we practice a high level Art the energy will work sufficient to either clear or addapt.

Take this example: normally training at a beautyful lake, no people around, fresh air, no cars would be most effective.

Other people have no other choice as to train in a flat, in a poluted, noicy city have a slight disadvantage.

If all things are equal, the guy on the lake side would get more of his training.

but most of the time the things are simply not equal. The guys in the city may enter a deeper level of chi kung state of mind, and yet having more access to the cosmic energy (vertical approach) than the others who deal more with the surrounding available energies (horizonal approach).

The same may or may not be with eating meat or beeing vegetarian.

If we deal with Cosmic energy, then meat eaters may get cleared, while vegetarians may get an addition to their diet.

On the highest level of course it may make more sense to get the best out of everything! This is closely related to ones aims and objectives.

[Kingmonkey]

Hello all

I’d like to clarify some of the points I made in my previous post.

I didn’t want to lobby for meateaters at all, ist up to everyone if he is a vegetarian or not, for myself I have reduced my consumption of meat to a possible minimum.
I think it’s the variety of a lot of different things which makes a diet wholesome. This variety may or may not include meat but it should be manifold.

What I wanted to say ist hat I think that our understanding of our environment is kind of deranged. We eat cows, pigs and other mamals which are not at all treated as they should be and complain about some other cultures eating cats and dogs which we prefer to hold as cute pets. Intensive animal husbandry is a problem, but how many of the vegetarians do consider how and where their food is grown. Huge monocultures of soy beans in the USA, hectares of strange plastic covered fruit and vegetable fields in Spain, nuts from all over the world, shiped and flewn around from here to there to be rosted and then to somewhere else to be canned and back and forth till they get to the supermarket of your choice.

In historical european herbal medicine they say that the herbs you use should, if possible, be grown in the same enviornment you live in because then you and the herb share some of the same circumstances, (the same qi surrounding). This to me sounds quite reasonable.
But nowadays our beef comes from Argentina, chiken from Hungary, tomatos from Spain, oranges from Israel, Asparagus from Mexico nuts from Greece, the USA, and well but nearly everywhere etc. etc. and everything is available throughout the year.
This to me just doesen’t sound healthy, I mean really healthy, it’s not at all what mother nature has ment for us.

I like Nik’s Post because I think it shoots in about a similar direction….

I also like Zach’s post, but that is a way of living, most of us just can not follow for a variety of reasons.

I am running out of time so I’ll have to stopp here for the moment, just let me say this;
We are in fact very lucky. Why? We have a tool to let us clear ourselfes from all the, sorry, bullshit we have to live from. It’s called Chi Flow...
I know it sounds a bit drastic but if you think about it one sometimes has to get a bit drastic…..

Btw, I personally think that humans deep inside are predators, allthough a lot of people may dissagree. Look at how other predators treat their food.

I sometimes think we tend to humanize a lot of things which just aren’t human…..


Pat

Edit: PS read this

[Kevin_B]

We frequently hear that becoming a vegetarian/vegan is something we can all do to fight global warming as meat production is though to be carbon intensive. Paul McCartney and Rajendra Pachauri are two well-known people who have publically voiced this opinion.


A new book - Meat - a benign extravagance – claims otherwise. I haven’t read it yet but here is George Monbiot’s view on it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

Certainly an interesting contribution to the global warming debate/mass hysteria.