The Next Revelation

[AlexBaranosky]

Thanks for those links Mrk. I've heard those books are excellent.

[Robert (Bath)]

THanks for this post.

I've recently been reading the bible out of interest and knew that something wasn't right with it!!
What a world we live in!!!??

Addressing the issue of jesus and the bible has improved my Shaolin Wahnam chi kung practice because weather I belive in Jesus / the bible or not it was fed into me through-out school so Its right there in my mind.

Cheers again
Rob.

[SeanC]

Questions

I have to say this is a most interesting thread. I was wondering Wu Jing, if you could give us some background on your Aramaic studies (ancient near-eastern I'm assuming?). I am curious because bible translation is a pretty hot topic among scholars, and it usually requires extensive graduate and doctoral work to understand the nuances and critical theory necessary when working with archaic forms of languages. I would be interested to see how you arrived at your translation as I am very interested in hermanutics myself -- I've attended seminary, and I have done graduate work in near eastern archaeology.

As for the King James Version of the bible, I agree it falls short in many places as it was written in 1611 and the English language has changed quite a bit since then. I have found multiple translations of the Aramaic-Peshitta New Testament from reconized scholars in the field, and I saw you had posted you were really looking for a translation, so I have a link for five Aramaic-Peshitta New Testament translations http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/
included below is the lengendary George Lamsa translation of John 14:1-6
Lamsa Translation - John Chapter 14

1 ¶ LET not your heart be troubled; believe in God, and believe in me also.
2 In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to me, so that where I am you may be also.
4 ¶ You know where I am going and you know the way.
5 Thomas said to him, Our Lord, we do not know where you are going; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus said to him, I am the way and the truth and the life; no man comes to my Father except by me.

It seems quite different from your translation:
Don't let your heart be divided or weakened because I am going: Root your confidence and trust within Sacred Unity, The Ground and Source of All, just as you have rooted yourselves in my trust of the One Reality. Inside this living, creating reality of the Parent of the Cosmos, you will find many way stations to turn in rest, abundant temporary housing for the growing awareness of your own divine image the reflection of the divine "I AM" to stay awhile before it journeys further. If this were not so, and you only had one chance, I would have told you. That is why I'm going ahead, returning to the Holy One, creating in my wake a fusion and infusion of Divine Light and consciousness, a station where you can rest, an opportunity to follow my soul on the same journey. As "I" go, my soul simply finds it's own level, my divine image rises and moves toward the first Beginning, where "Let us make humanity..." is the real life. The true "I" that you see in me, the living ideal you hold that has inspired you with love and devotion, just reflects your own divine "I AM." this reflection is always traveling to and returning from the Source of All Being. Where that "I Am" really is is where you are and can be, consciously. You already know the way you have it in your hand. Thomas said, "How will we recognize this level and find the steps to reach it?" Jesus replied, "The I Am your own innermost reflection of the One constructs the path for you. It shows you one step after another, tells you which way to turn when you reach a crossroads and gives you energy to travel further. No one goes anywhere, to the Source of Creation or otherwise, if not within and with the innermost reflection of the divine I Am. This is the same way that I am going now."

I must say. I have a friend who has spent over ten years professionally studying the ancient bible langauges in an academic environment. He is a secular Jew and scholar who teaches in Israel. Neither him nor I can conceive of how you arrived at your translation. Perhaps you could advise us?

Wu Jing from what you have posted, it looks like you've taken the original message and have added in your own commentary and words. If this is not the case, please help me see then.

If you cannot show these things, I ask you from the bottom of my heart to stop posting your own verison of the bible. We can speak of karma from knowingly vilifying holy texts. We can also speak of the wrathful judgement John writes about of people who add or remove anything from the written message. It seems people have enough confusion about Christianity. I ask you as a brother in Christ to please consider carefully your words.

-Shawn

[Bernardo]

Hi Wu Jing,

This is a nice thread.

Regarding the translation and the questions raised by Shawn... In the second link provided by Mark, "Blessings of the Cosmos", which is a preview of the book written by Neil Douglas-Klotz, one can read the exact same wording you use in your own translations.

But I understood you yourself translated these texts from the Aramaic. In that case, are you Dr. Douglas-Klotz?

All the best,

Bernardo.