Chaoyi Fanhuan Qigong

[Yixin]

At the end of July, my wife Yan Wei and I went to Colorado for training in Chaoyi Fanhuan Qigong (CFQ). In short, it was a wonderful experience. We spent two days training with Dr. Chok Hiew, Master Yap's most senior student in North America, who was very kind and open to answer many question out of a long list that I had prepared for him. We spent another two days training with Master Yap himself. Very much like Sifu Wong, Master Yap is a very happy and gentle master. Perhaps his English was harder to understand but soon my ears adapted and I grew to appreciate his unique accent.

Out of all the experiences, the most incredible would have to be the first time attending one of his healing sessions. After a brief talk about his healing work and some instructions to help us relax into a qigong state of mind, a roomful group of about 30 people sat with our backs facing Master Yap to begin the healing session. During the session I heard many people making all sorts of noises either vocally or physically by hitting the floor.

What surprised me the most was what happened when I was kneeling on the ground. I felt an urge to let out a sigh. I let it out but not completely being an introvert that I am. But, before I knew how it happened, I was breathing in and out very hard making crying noises. Waves of sorrow and despair came out. My whole upper-body and arms were also completely numb but the heavy numbness did slowly move out. In the end, I felt that I was freed from some deeply buried burden that was even unknown to me.

After coming home, I didn't expect to have such a big release without Master Yap's help. Boy was I wrong. A few days ago, during the spontaneous movement meditation, I had experienced again the same emotional release coupled with the same numbness except it was even stronger than the first. My wife told me that the crying and screaming I was doing sounded very scary, like I was in excruciating pain. I told her that it was very powerful and I couldn't help but just let it out in whatever way it needed to.

Without trying, I'm much happier and relaxed than before. Several times, i didn't know that I was smiling until someone I greeted smiled back at me. Most importantly, I started to become more sensitive and aware of my habits and actions. I am able to notice and stop myself before I go chasing after something in order to fulfill my desire for ego-centric happiness or excitement. I have begun to understand the acquiring nature of the dense energy that we accumulate during all the activities of the day.

One of the course participants asked me about my experience taking the Intensive course with Sifu Wong. I told her that Sifu Wong helped me a lot. I was quite closed and he opened me up much more than before. The chi kung practice I learned from Sifu Wong also prepared me to better benefit from this opportunity. I am truly grateful for what Sifu Wong has given me.

To conclude, I would like to officially announce that I have decided to practice CFQ in place of Shaolin Chi Kung. I secretly decided this a long time ago since I read, re-read and finally after e-mailing Dr. Hiew some questions about the principles of CFQ. My initial motive was quite selfish. It was becuase I wanted to learn Sifu Yap's energy healing techniques. Now that I have had a direct experience of CFQ, I can say that I no longer follow it because I'm chasing after some super healing ability but because I feel that CFQ is truly right for me.

I hope I aroused no hard feelings in any of you with my decision. I really enjoy reading and rarely participating in this forum. Especially the energetic posts by Anthony about Chinese Medicine. Expect more from my wife and I on that subject later. I wish that I'm still welcome on this forum and not seen as a traitor.

from the heart,
Yixin

[Maxime]

Dear Yixin

If you are still working for the hapiness of Humankind, then I have no reason to consider you as a traitor.

If you are still respecting Sifu Wong and the wonderful teachings he gave you, then I have no reason to consider you as a traitor.

Different roads will end at the top of the same mountain.

Seems that I don't consider you as a traitor

Good luck in your quest.

Maxime.

[Michael Udel]

Congratulations!

Dear Yixin,

Thanks for a wonderful post with a description of your experiences, and congratulations on such an excellent discovery. I know everyone here appreciates that we are all working toward a very similar—if not identical—goal, but traveling different paths at different times. I always look forward to when chance may bring our paths to a friendly intersection and happy meeting on the forum or in person.

Please let me know how your CFQ training progresses!

Best wishes,
Michael

[beggarsu]

Dear Yixin,


I greatly enjoyed reading your post about your recent experience with MAster Yap's Cosmic Freedom Qigong. I love reading about Qigong, and always looking
to read about the famous Qigong Masters. Although Master Yap has quite a
reputation, there aren't as many for instance Student Experiences or Question
and Answer things like what Master Wong Kiew Kit has on the web. Although it makes me sad sometimes to think that relatively, there aren't as many Qigong Masters these days as there may have been in the past, or that the level of Qigong these days, even at it's highest levels, is still nowhere near what was around in the past, it makes me happy whenever I think about how lucky we are to have such great Masters like Master Wong Kiew Kit and Master Yap Soon Yeong. And then it makes me happy again to realize that although there is much miss information in the internet, the internet actually makes it easier for those seeking great Masters to quite easily find them (without having to travel in trial and error fashion) .

[Yixin]

Thank you Maxime, Michael and beggarsu for your kindness and support. It is very true that we're all working towards the very similar if not the same goal. Sifu Wong is the one who opened the door to high level qigong for me. Without him, I might still be depressed and lost not knowing what I'm living for. I'm forever greatful for that.

I also want to say that I'm sorry I couldn't announce the opportunity to train with Master Yap publicly for reasons which I cannot tell on this public forum. But I can let you know if you email or PM me.

wish you good luck on your quests as well,
Yixin

[Zhang Wuji]

Hi Yixin

所谓殊途同归. 倘若有人敢指责你"背叛师门", 就说明这些人食古不化, 不明真理.在
人生的路程中, 我们有幸遇到贵人相助提拔, 而你能巧遇至少两位名师为你指点迷
津, 是你修来的福, 又有谁有资格埋怨?

令我感到遗憾的, 是我未曾与你会面, 将来应该也没机会了. 不过说不定你会给我
意外的惊喜呢?

在此祝一新兄在个人修为更上一层楼, 凡事求返朴归真!

无忌启

[Marcus]

Hello Yixin

I also want to say that I'm sorry I couldn't announce the opportunity to train with Master Yap publicly for reasons which I cannot tell on this public forum. But I can let you know if you email or PM me.

This statement raises a number of issues for me that I would like to address.

1) This is the Shaolin Wahnam Institutes forum. Thus using it to advertise courses for another school would be inappropriate and as you have learned from Sifu previously would also be very disrespectful.
2) Anyone reading this comment would wonder what has been happening behind the scenes. This creates gossip and speculation which are not healthy.

In an attempt to address these issues I would like to offer the following explanations:

The Shaolin Wahnam Institute has no problem with its students learning from other schools. Speaking for myself I have learned from other schools whilst being a Shaolin Wahnam Student. I have also visited Master Yap for a treatment.

A traitor is someone who betrays trust. An example would be a student from school X, who went to learn from another school Y and then started to bad mouth or speak ill of their first school (X), especially if this was done in an attempt to lure students away from their old school. Unfortunately this has been happening to Shaolin Wahnam for some time, recently from Shaolin Wahnam students who went on to train with Master Yap. A current specific example is spreading the false statement that what Shaolin Wahnam students practice is bad for karma. How anyone who has had the good fortune to learn from Sifu could then turn round and betray him in this manner is beyond me. I certainly would not want to be a part of any organisation that operated in such a manner or tolerated such behaviour.

Yixin, I am curious as to why you have chosen to make such a public announcement about your decision to leave Shaolin Wahnam for Chaoyi Fanhuan Qigong.

I sincerely wish you well and welcome you to the forum should you continue to visit.

Kind regards

Marcus


Namo Amitabha Buddha Namo Amitabha Buddha Namo Amitabha Buddha

[Joan]

Dear Yixin,

I also wish you well on your journey.

But also like Marcus, I do wonder though why you feel that you could not announce on our public forum your intention of training with Sifu Yap.

To new comers on the forum or those who are not Shaolin Wahnam students it may give the incorrect impression that Sifu Wong or a Shaolin Wahnam instructor advised or tried to prevent you from attending the healing sessions.

So just in case, some forum participants may believe that to be true I would like to reiterate Marcus's point that Sifu Wong has no objection to his students learning from other teachers. In fact he often encourages them to do so.

With regards to thinking that you have betrayed Sifu Wong, personally I feel that, on the contrary, you have been vocally very courteous and grateful for the high level of teaching that Sifu generously gave you and the great benefits that you received as a result of that teaching.

I have had the unfortunate experience in Ireland of listening to students who had greatly benefitted from Sifu Wong’s teachings, and vocally praising the benefits to anybody who would listen, until they attended another Master and then it almost appeared as if they were brainwashed.

Suddenly, Shaolin Cosmos Chi Kung was not able to clear karma, it was not effective in clearing blockages, it wasn’t meditation and total wonderment that toxic chi is cleared out through the soles of the feet! This was stated in such an arrogant manner, that I wondered what effect their ‘new’ practice was really going to have on their karma!

How foolish all those Shaolin monks must have been!

Anyway, I digress, my apologies, just giving an example of what betrayal is after receiving such great benefits.

So I wish you all the best,

Smile from the Heart,
Joan

[Yixin]

Hello Marcus and Joan,

I want to clarify that my inability to announce the CFQ training opportunity was not in any way associated with Shaolin Wahnam. It was purely a personal matter of Master Yap, which I cannot tell on this public forum. I sincerely apologize for my bad decision making in posting that. Because I remembered some other Shaolin Wahnam members also posted on the forum when there was a chance to train CFQ, my original intention was to say that I didn't purposely keep the opportunity to learn CFQ a secret to myself. I simply couldn't tell publicly even if I wanted to, again, for reasons solely personal to Master Yap and nothing to do with Shaolin Wahnam.

To answer Marcus's question, I chose to "come out of the dark" because I no longer wanted to change what I practiced while everyone still assumed that I was practicing Shaolin Chi Kung. In no way was I intending to advertise CFQ or create interest in it but I guess that was inevitable. I just wanted to get myself "out of the shadow".

Also, I'm sorry to hear about the stories of students bad-mouthing Shaolin Wahnam after learning from another master. I didn't know there were such cases until you told me! Such students only show their shallow understanding and quickness to judge others. From my own experience, Shaolin Chi Kung does clear karma and blockages, in fact, very effectively so.

Thank you for your kind wishes.
from the heart,
Yixin

[Yixin]

I wanted to add that I'm comforted to know that Sifu Wong is so generous to encourages us to learn from other masters. In reference to being considered as a traitor, it was perhaps a burden that I created for myself. I believe it came from my impression from a previous kung fu school that I attended locally. I remember the instructor didn't seem to appreciate my willingness to search out other sources of information about chi kung and internal martial arts.

sincerely,
Yixin

[Yixin]

无忌兄：

江湖之事小弟的确迷雾不通，固然造成一些无必是非。 不过，我要谢谢无忌兄对我的支持。
可以得到高人指点迷津，的确是我们的福气。 嘿，我的中文已经退步得太多。 So, I'm going to use English. It would be my pleasure to meet you if it happens in the future. Back to Chinese, 好一句 凡事求返朴归真！ 我突然记得了叶师傅的一首诗：
超凡脱俗虚无意，返朴归真自性还。
我也祝你在个人修为更上一层楼！

一新

[Joan]

Dear Yixin,

Thank you for clarifying that for me and for others on the forum.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about the stories of students bad-mouthing Shaolin Wahnam after learning from another master. I didn't know there were such cases until you told me! Such students only show their shallow understanding and quickness to judge others. From my own experience, Shaolin Chi Kung does clear karma and blockages, in fact, very effectively so

.


It is indeed a very sad and serious situation when students, who change Masters, slander or bad mouth their former Master or school.
As we all know, Sifu Wong runs an ethical, moral and compassionate institute, where students freely come to receive his excellent teaching and not because they have been ‘lured’ or ‘attracted’ by inaccurate information , (some of which I have mentioned above) which some of the Irish students have been subjected to, by students of other schools.

Again Yixin, I wish you well and I appreciate your clarification,

Smile from the Heart,
Joan

[Antonius]

To answer Marcus's question, I chose to "come out of the dark" because I no longer wanted to change what I practiced while everyone still assumed that I was practicing Shaolin Chi Kung.

Did you contact Sifu Wong to tell him this?

Also, I wonder who is telling you that you must change what you practice? Sifu Wong has said many times that Shaolin Cosmos Qigong is not only compatible with other styles of qigong, but that it will often enhance them. So it's obviously not Sifu Wong telling you to choose one over the other.

[Darryl]

Hi Yixin,

Thank you for letting us know. I have enjoyed watching your process of growth and transformation (via your posts on the Forum) and wish both you and your wife well regardless of which system you choose to practice. Your comments of gratitute towards Sifu and the process that was started by him are very gracious and also indicitive of an Open Heart so - congratulations. As Joan noted, it has been known for former Shaolin Wahnam students to return from a Chaoyi Fanhuan Qigong course with a very different attitude, usually either rude or very ill-informed. This does not mean that every student will do so, but it does mean that when someone links both events together (having learned CFQ and then leaving Shaolin Wahnam) we tend to take notice.

On a separate note, when Sifu mentions learning from other Masters, I usually laugh and smile. I already have more than enough to work on, to work with and to deepen an understanding of from what he has already taught me, so why would I want to go elsewhere? I encourage my students to look around, to see what is out there and to enjoy the interactions of other stylists, other systems and other Arts. However, I don't recommend that they bother with Arts that are rude (either about myself, my Sifu or my Art) or duplicitous (unles the students are skilled enough to genuinely form their own opinions).

I have met Sifu Yap before and he asked me to help organise courses in the UK. I politely declined and explained that I had more than enough to work on already, both with my own practice and with my own Sifu. I have also had CFQ students badmouthing my Sifu to me and I have nodded, smiled and then walked away. Some of these same students have done similar things to a lot of the Shaolin Wahnam Instructors and various student members and personally, I would be extremely displeased with any of my students who acted in a similar way to anyone, let alone either a previous or current instructor.

I hope this gives a bit more background as to why your post is being given a bit more scrutiny that may seem applicable. People do move from one school to another, from one system to another and this is perfectly natural and acceptable. However, if people move from one school to another due to deliberate mis-information or half truths, then this is neither natural nor acceptable.

[Yixin]

misinformation

Dear everyone,

Thank you again for your kindness. I think it's fair that my post underwent closer scrutiny because of other bad experiences with students who have learned CFQ. So, I'm not complaining.

This raises a question within myself whether or not I'm mis-informed. Also, how did those students become so rude or mislead? Since i have learned and know what is taught in a CFQ workshop, I have some idea of the possible reasons. Now I have to confirm for myself what is true and what is false.

To answer Anthony's question, I didn't personally inform Sifu Wong. If it was rude to not do so, please tell me. I'll apologize to Sifu Wong. Also, I told myself that I only wanted to practice one kind of qigong at a time. Whether or not I had to change what I practice is quite a complex question for me because I have changed my views about it many times already. Currently, it is not relevant to me because I only plan to practice CFQ. However, as stated in the previous paragraph, I will investigate and find what is the truth.

I wanted to say I take no offense in any of the questioning. It has forced me to question my own understanding of things, which I gladly accept.

sincerely,
Yixin