Black gypsy magic?

[NickyUK&France]

Dear All,

I hope this post is in the right section of the forum. My question is about how to protect against black magic, following an unusual experience I had with someone who said they were a gypsy.

My post is not intended to offend any person who would call themselves a gypsy, but I am concerned about the experience I had, and would like to request some advice about it. Certainly, if I experienced what I think I did, I do not want to suggest that all gypsies act in the way this person did, or that all gypsies have evil intentions.

Sifu has occasionally discussed the existence of magic in his Q-A series, for example here:

http://www.shaolin.org/answers/ans00a/may00-3.html (Answer 2)

And specifically on protection from black magic here:
http://www.shaolin.org/answers/ans00a/apr00-1.html (Question 8)

Now to my experience. A few days ago, near my home, I was approached in the street by a lady who offered me a flower 'to bring me luck in the world'. She said she was a gypsy, and asked whether I would pay a little to a cause relating to children that I didn't catch the full details of. To be honest I am not sure she intended me to catch them.

I am not a superstitious person, at all. But chi kung has opened my mind to many new things, and as spritual matters were involved (the luck in the flower could only be generated by spritual or magical practices), I instantly started to pay careful attention. I did not trust this person, not because she was a gypsy but because she didn't explain what she was collecting money for at all clearly, and because their was something about her manner of approach that I felt was designed to influence me inappropriately. For example, she deliberately stood unusually close to me.

I had no interest in obtaining luck from this flower. However, as I did not trust this person I wanted to be careful not to antagonise them. As I had no change on me I said I would go and get some cash and come back to make a donation. The lady put the flower in my breast pocket and off I went. However, by the time I came back with some money, the lady was gone.

Chikung has made me sensitive to many energetic influences in my life, both positive and negative. Therefore, when the lady put the flower in my breast pocket, close to my heart, I was instantly wary, and immediately decided to monitor the energy coming from the flower. I thought the flower was quite nice, but it was not long at all before I was aware of its energy affecting the way I felt. I tried to tell whether the effect was positive or negative. It did not take long for me to decide that it was negative. I felt a dull, angry feeling building in my heart from wearing the flower. I took it out of my pocket and threw it on the floor. Immediately the bad feeling subsided. I quickly went outside and threw away the flower around 50m from my house.

In my opinion, this was simply a lesson given to me as part of my spiritual training. Such lessons are very common in my practice. Thanks to my training, I was able to quickly neutralise the risk of harm . However, I don't think I should just leave it there. I would like to ask for some advice.

I am not sure of my own interpretation of what happened. But the closest I can get is as follows. I am quite sure that the flower's energy was harmful. There are only really 2 possibilities that I can think of: the flowers are clearly bewitched, either to harm people who accept them, or to rob them of their chi or spritual energy in favour of the person who gives them out. In this last case, the flowers would act as a drain on the receiver's energy, transmitting it to the giver. Personally, I find the second option more likely, but either way I was subject to an attack by means of black magic.

I would like to ask whether I should adopt any specific practice to protect against similar attacks in the future, and for any other general advice.

Respectfully,
Nicky

[Omar]

Smile from the heart, and let go

[Andrea]

Dear Nicky

My experience is that things we give power, have the power we give them. Thus I believe it is important to be careful what power we do attribute to things, people and events, especially when we train in the Shaolin Arts and our minds become more powerful.

What stroke me when reading your message was that you seemed to have been suspicious from the very first sight of the women. This suspicion increases, paired with fear as you keep looking out for signs to confirm it. Yet you did not walk away but stayed "locked in" the situation until you got a negative confirmation ...
Could it have been different? What would have happened if you had smiled at the women and asked her to explain what the children needed? Or just thanked her with a smile but said you did not wish to take the flower? What if you had not feared to become subject of some evil effects, but decided that this encounter was for the good?

What I mean to say is, that we are not victims, but have an important part. If you let the fear and suspicion dominate you, and give people or things the power to drain you, they will do so.

So as Omar said "Smile from the Heart" ... let go .. and if you get into a situation which you feel is not a good one, then just walk away with a smile. If you do practice a religion, a prayer and asking a heavenly being you trust, to protect you, might be helpful too to overcome the fear and feel protected. At the Chi level imaging a Chi shield might be helpful too. I think Sigung has mentioned it in the question and answers, but I cannot find the reference and am not sure whether or not it was in this context.

Andrea

[NickyUK&France]

Dear Andrea,

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to clarify that I don't really have any worries about this, as it is not really a big deal. However, I take even small things like this as lessons, because what happens when something similar but more serious comes along?

What stroke me when reading your message was that you seemed to have been suspicious from the very first sight of the women. This suspicion increases, paired with fear as you keep looking out for signs to confirm it. Yet you did not walk away but stayed "locked in" the situation until you got a negative confirmation ...

It is true that I was suspicious, but I don't consider this to have been an emotional response.

I think I may have been slightly unclear before in my post, but I only got confirmation of the slightly harmful nature of the flower a litttle while after parting company with the lady. About staying locked in to the situation, again this may not have been conveyed by what I wrote, but my course of action was designed to extricate myself from the situation as quickly and politely as possible.

Could it have been different? What would have happened if you had just thanked her with a smile but said you did not wish to take the flower?

That is exactly what I did when a second gypsy approached me yesterday evening in around the same spot. Her response was to call after me, in a voice which had just an undertone of threat to it: "Don't pass a gypsy by". This was actually quite unpleasant. I should say again that I don't really have any worries about this, but what she said was actually exactly the kind of thing people say that gypsies say before cursing people. I always used to think that curses and spells were things you read about in fairy tales. I mostly still do hold this opinion, i.e. for the majority of cases, including this one. But Sifu's Q-A has forced me to reconsider the issue as a matter of principle.

What if you had not feared to become subject of some evil effects, but decided that this encounter was for the good?

In a way, I did this also, by deciding that this was a spiritual lesson. Nevertheless, this involves seeing the broader picture: when people say they were given a lesson, it usually means they learned from an experience which in itself was bad. With respect, however, I think that given the direct experience of the energy coming from the flower, to decide that the experience itself was beneficial would be naive.

What I mean to say is, that we are not victims, but have an important part. If you let the fear and suspicion dominate you, and give people or things the power to drain you, they will do so.

I would like to thank you for this excellent advice. However, in this particular case I have no doubts at all about the flower's ability to harm.

If you do practice a religion, a prayer and asking a heavenly being you trust, to protect you, might be helpful too to overcome the fear and feel protected.

I will certainly be praying about this, and will look for that Q-A about chi shields. If anyone knows any more, I would greatly appreciate their advice.


Many thanks again,
Nicky

[Charles David]

Try it and See

Dear Nicky,

Sifu has often taught us the power of asking the great Bodhisattva Guan Yin for her protection. He advises to use this mantra:

Namo Guan Shi Yin Pu Sa, Namo Guan Shi Yin Pu Sa, Namo Guan Shi Yin Pu Sa


I have used this mantra for some years now and have always felt well protected by it.

Try it and see.


Yours,


Charles

[Daniel]

Dear all,

And if you try to have always good thoughts you´ll fear nothing, be it black magic or any other thing.

Happy Christmas!

[AlexBaranosky]

Hello Nikki,

In my opinion, born from my own life experience, I would say that the fear or worry you hold regarding the situation is the most powerful factor involved.

If the flower was indeed somehow charged by that woman with ill intent, it could only affect you badly if you let it.

the easiest way to not let it latch on is to smile from the heart, perhaps give a laugh, and say, "That is a beautiful flower, thank you for my many blessings." And when you say it (or something to a similar effect), you make light of the flower, and reaffirm the goodness that is your life.

And that is some powerful White Magic

In my opinion, black magic can only work on those who either believe in it, or who believe that bad things are bound to happen.

Maybe that was the "real" lesson the gypsy had for you, and not the lesson you thought you were learning. Only time will tell!