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Not eating meat helps in minimizing the animal behavior inside everyone of us.Joko
This quote from joko really caught my eye.
Does it matter if you eat the meat or the fat from the animal? Do you still get affected?
Isnt it a good thing to nurture our animal behaviour when practising Kung Fu full of animal movements?
I know Swedish vikings ate the fat and throwed the meat to the dogs
/Niklas
"If a man is called to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven played music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well."/Martin Luther King, Jr.
Isnt it a good thing to nurture our animal behaviour when practising Kung Fu full of animal movements?
Not necessarily. That's not what the Shaolin animals are about. When doing a Tiger pattern, you don't become a tiger. Rather, you cultivate the spirit and energy of a Tiger. But it's still a human being who's doing the cultivating.
The Shaolin monks were largely vegetarians, but that is certainly not recommended. Today, it is extremely difficult to be a healthy vegetarian in the West. Eating meat (and fat) is about being healthy, not about cultivating animal energies.
I consider myself very lucky to live in an age when it is easier than ever to enjoy a healthy diet without having to kill or even involve an animal.
Ten years ago when I first became a vegan everyone always asked what I ate and drunk. Now i find it increasingly common to find my friend's fridges stocked with soya milk and non-meat food products. In an age when more and more people are realising the risks of heart disease and other diet related conditions, people are turning to a vegatarian diet.
I find it quite liberating that, apart from on Sigung's birthday (and that was only ice cream), I can live well without causing the suffering of other animals.
I accept that by practising chi kung our bodies are capable of processing high fat foods more effectively, therefore we can indulge more freely. However the same is true for an animal free diet. Chi kung will make the best of it.
In some parts of the world a vegatarian diet is often associated with not being able to afford to eat meat. It is for this reason that I believe it is still looked down upon.
I'm sorry to say this, but I have yet to meet a healthy vegan. You may be the only one, but that would be because of your chi kung training. Routinely, vegans are blood deficient, malnourished, qi deficient, and have various other problems that will get worse and worse with time. If you live well, it is due to your chi kung training. Other vegans are not so lucky.
The vegan diet is a completely intellectual one. It is not based on any traditional (nor modern) dietary wisdom. It is simply an effort to avoid harming animals. As a result, vegans end up harming themselves instead.
I've said my peace about soy in other threads. If you want more informatin, please visit www.westonaprice.org. Better yet, read "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon.
Nowadays it seems that the batle between industrys continue .
The batle between the Cow Milk and the Soya Milk is very strong and it's easy understanding cause there is lots of money involved.
1. The habitual consuming of cow milk and it's "good for everything"
2. A few years ago start to apear the studies against the cow milk. Basicaly it seems to be terrible in every aspects ! including related with various form of cancer, especialy breast cancer.
3. The Boom of soya milk and it's "good for everything"
4. Studies apear against the soya milk. Basically it seems to be terrible in every aspects ! including related with various form of cancer, especialy breats cancer.
Well, we know that some studies are "forced" and pre-arranged froim both parts. And we know that the modern milk industry processed is very different of the pure fresh milk. And we know that this modern soya milk drinks are not very good too. So what do we do ?, don't drink any, or drink both as i do
Now that is in the market soya milk mixed with cow milk ... the best of both worlds in the same botle.
There is a ton of evidence against soy if you just look. There's also plenty of evidence against pasteurized milk. But raw milk is a different story. If you can get it (it's illegal in many places, for no good reason) raw milk can literally transform you. It's the "Lifting The Sky" of food products.
There is a ton of evidence against soy if you just look. There's also plenty of evidence against pasteurized milk. But raw milk is a different story. If you can get it (it's illegal in many places, for no good reason) raw milk can literally transform you. It's the "Lifting The Sky" of food products.
My mother grew up on a farm. She says they had a cow and drank the milk until two of her brothers got sick and started vomiting blood. That's when they started drinking pasteurized milk. She says that the cow got some kind of disease. Is this a danger when drinking raw milk? I'm still yet to try raw milk, but I love drinking pasteurized whole milk.
"Then how could chi kung overcome diseases where the cause is unknown or when there is no cure? The question is actually incorrect. The expressions "the cause is unknown" and "there is no cure" are applicable only in the Western medical paradigm. The expressions no longer hold true in the chi kung paradigm. In the chi kung paradigm the cause is known, and there is a cure."
Thank you for the advice about raw milk. I think it is difficult to find here, but i will try it.
About modern milk i know from my clinical practice that it is bad in lots of pathologys, especially in respiratory allergic like asthma and sinusitis and intestines diseases. But because it changes the PH for the acidity side brings with it lots of problems related. So it is beneficial to stop with milk no matter the disease. About soy milk i can't tell nothing about it, i just have to trust the studies.
i drink soya milk and cow milk, i always drink biological soya milk and biological cow milk. In th soya case, i don't notice much difference between the bio or not. (maybe because 80% of the soya is transgenic). But in the cow milk i clearly feel it in my dantien when i drink bio, it has some life, some chi. as the not bio cow milk it feels like plastic food with no life, no chi.
But raw milk is a different story. If you can get it (it's illegal in many places, for no good reason) raw milk can literally transform you. It's the "Lifting The Sky" of food products.
Back when I was a child living in Russia, we used to buy raw milk all the time. Sometimes (when we were out of town) we would get it when it was still warm from being in the cow. I was very nice (with warm dark rye bread.... <drool>.)
We did know exactly where and which cow the milk came from (and they looked like very happy cows.) I would not trust such milk if it was sold in a shop (mixed from a number of animals etc.)
These days, if I have to drink pasturised milk then I make sure it is the best I can get, which at the moment is the Jersey Gold Top (just pasturised and made from cows that don't get fed on things like powdered antelope from strange places in Africa.) It actually forms a layer of cream on top if left standing for a while, something that the majority of the zombie milk sold here does not do.
Mark, if you find a good source of raw milk, then it's as safe as drinking pasteurized milk. Basically, pasteurization allows milk farmers to have dirtier production facilities and unhealthy cows. If the cows are healthy and the facilities clean, then raw milk is quite safe.
By they way, my views on raw milk and nutrition are my own, and not Sifu's.
Consumption of dairy products is a contributing factor in nearly two dozen diseases of children and adults.
Cow's milk can lead to iron deficiency anemia, allergies, diarrhea, heart disease, colic, cramps, gastrointestinal bleeding, sinusitis, skin rashes, acne, increased frequency of colds and flu, arthritis, diabetes, ear infections, osteoporosis, asthma, autoimmune diseases, and more, possibly even lung cancer, multiple sclerosis and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
It would appear that promoters of cow's milk are creating advertising statements that are meant to appeal on a subconscious level to our positive feelings and experiences with human breast milk. All mammals, including humans, are intended to be nourished during infancy by milk from their mother. Part of the very definition of a mammal is that the female of the species has milk-producing glands in her breasts which provide nourishment for her young. Each species of mammal produces its unique type of milk designed specifically to strengthen the immune system and provide nourishment for their babies, which are weaned after their birth weight has approximately tripled.
The milk of each species appears to have been specifically designed to protect the young of that species. Cross-feeding does not work. Heating, sterilization, or modification of the milk in any way destroys the protection.
But don't we need to drink milk to get calcium? No. The best way to add calcium to your diet is to eat more fresh green vegetables. Cow's milk is high in calcium, the problem is that it is in a form that cannot be assimilated very well by humans. Thousands and thousands of blood tests conducted show that people who drink 3 or 4 glasses of milk a day invariably had the lowest levels of blood calcium.
I think we have to understand the difference between natural foods and foods that are processed in some ways.
Drinking milk is as natural as eating eggs or meat or vegetables. Humans have adopted to a diet consisting of a mixture of food. Thats why we have been able to spread around the world.
The problems occur when we eat foods from animals or vegetables that dont have been living in their natural enivronment.
Animals kill animals all the time, humans who kill wild animals is also natural. And involves no more suffering than the suffering from dying.
Its totaly different from how animals suffer who for example lives their whole life indoors and gets fed special
food to grow as fast and as big as possible.
I understand vegans that dont eat meat because of the suffering from animals that live under theese conditions.
But i have yet to find a good argument from a vegan that dont eat meat because we are not ment to kill and eat animals.
/Niklas
"If a man is called to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven played music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well."/Martin Luther King, Jr.
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