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  • #16
    That russian video is exceptional. I see two simple explanations (and favor the second). It is all staged (ie. everyone was previously schooled and trained into doing that as a choreography) or it is real. I will assume it's real.

    If it's real, there is a sort of continuum between basic psychology (not "basic" as in easy, rather, basic as operating from a basic, almost uncosncious level of the human psyche) all the way to either 1) highly skilled non-prepped hypnosis or 2) actual energy work or 3) a combination of both, as frequently happens.

    One thing is clear: that guy has exceptional bodywork, he knows where to be. I've seen some of the things he is demoing done by others. For instance, look at 1:20 to 1:30 it's a tremendously good (because it is so clear and well demoed) demonstration of a basic principle in Aikido, although many teachers can't do it. "Give" so that the attacker can try to "take", but force him to move in a certain way to take, then "take it away" from him while stealing his balance. In essence, the attacker commits to a move which will guarantee that he falls should he miss.

    Many years ago I met a Japanese Aikido teacher who did it to me like ten times in a row. It was just weird. I was not punching or trying to grab while "rushing", just using good stable stance while "shuffle moving" forward and striking or grabbing, but I still fell. Sometimes I fell slowly, staggering back, but just couldn't regain my balance. Kokyu Nage partly works like that, as the Aikidoist throws the opponent without touching him, but it requires greater "momentum" on the attacker's part.

    This russian guy seems to be VERY good at doing this. Also, his initial demos (from 0:00 to about 0:10) show amazing deflection ability.

    I liked it. I have to withhold judgment on some of the more woo-woo stuff, because I wasn't there, but I think to me it looked genuine, down to the kiai he does on the american guy.

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    • #17
      There are other examples of great body skill in Russian martial arts. See the following Vasiliev video:



      It is undeniable that, even if we think that it wouldn't work exactly like that in "real life", the level of skill shown is impressive.

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      • #18
        Even if it's any kind of "hypnosis"...
        I've never ever seen/heard clear explanation of hypnosis. Even "placebo effect" has no normal clear scientific explanation. It "just happens". What it is and why it works? So, there is no conflict between "chi" and "hypnosis".

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        • #19
          If you say "conflict" I agree, but if you say "difference" I don't agree. There is a difference between Qi and Hypnosis. Of course there is a continuum where at some point there is an intersection between the two.

          I also think that hypnosis is not "one thing" only, so that I also think there is not one explanation of what it is. For example, there is also a strong continuum in hypnosis, think of conscious NLP techniques, followed by semi-conscious, "sneaky" and so on all the way to full deep trances. But there are observable physical effects, even in the brain.

          Qi is partly, perhaps strongly or majoritarily, something that is in the body, not only in the mind. Hypnosis seems to be mostly rooted in the mind, even though it can cause physical effects. Hypnosis is probably more of a Shen phenomenon.

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          • #20
            I tried on myself, its not ipnosys...its true...my body move without any external imput...very strange...but really.
            I think russian video really.
            My Master tell me that he open my channels and my energy flow and move my body, its different from contact, very different, my body move very strange.

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